Orca 828 and Orca 866 are both proven Hypalon fabrics for RIB tube manufacture and retubing. The difference is weight and denier — not a jump in quality. This guide explains what sets them apart, when we use each grade, and why reinforcement matters more than most owners realise.
Both are genuine Orca Hypalon fabrics with the same CSM/CR construction. The choice is about matching fabric weight to boat size and how the boat is used.
Orca 828 is the standard-weight grade — the default for most leisure and lighter-duty RIB retubes up to around six to seven metres. Orca 866 is the heavyweight grade, the standard route above around seven metres and on commercial, patrol, rescue and hard-worked craft of any size.
Both are certified Orca Hypalon fabrics with CSM/CR construction. The choice is about matching fabric weight to boat size and duty — not about one being a better material than the other.
The standard RIB retube fabric. Suited to leisure boats, yacht tenders and lighter-duty commercial applications up to around 7 metres.
The heavier and stronger Hypalon fabric grade. Standard for boats over around 7 metres and for commercial, patrol, rescue and military RIBs of any size.
Orca 866 is both heavier and stronger. The higher-denier base fabric drives the difference in mechanical strength — not a difference in material quality.
Orca 866 has a surface mass of 1565 g/m² against 828's 1340 g/m² — a difference of around 225 g/m². Its tensile strength rating is ≥ 500 daN/5cm compared to ≥ 350 daN/5cm for 828, and its tear resistance is ≥ 33 daN against ≥ 20 daN.
The higher-denier base fabric in 866 — 1500 denier against 828's 990 denier — is what drives the difference in mechanical strength. A heavier yarn produces a stronger fabric base, which is why 866 is the standard for larger hulls where tube panels carry greater structural loads.
This is not a quality difference. Both grades use the same CSM/CR construction from Pennel & Flipo and carry the same ISO 6185 and SOLAS ISO 15372 certification. The choice is about matching Hypalon fabric grade to the structural demands of the boat and how it is used.
Both Orca 828 and Orca 866 are available across the main Orca Hypalon colour range. For colour selection, finishes and swatch guidance, see our Orca Hypalon colour chart.
Nominal values from Orca by Pennel & Flipo technical data.
| Specification | Orca Hypalon 828 | Orca Hypalon 866 |
|---|---|---|
| Base fabric | Polyester HT 1100 dtex / 990 denier | Polyester HT 1670 dtex / 1500 denier |
| Surface mass | 1340 g/m² (±140) | 1565 g/m² (±165) |
| Coating (external) | CSM / CR | CSM / CR |
| Coating (internal) | CR | CR |
| Tensile strength | ≥ 350 daN/5cm | ≥ 500 daN/5cm |
| Tear resistance | ≥ 20 daN | ≥ 33 daN |
| Certification | ISO 6185, SOLAS ISO 15372 | ISO 6185, SOLAS ISO 15372 |
| UV resistance | Strong — CSM compound | Strong — CSM compound |
| Typical application | Leisure, tenders, lighter commercial. Most boats to ~7m. | Commercial, patrol, rescue. Boats over ~7m. |
| Source: Orca by Pennel & Flipo technical data. Figures are nominal values. | ||
We look at the whole job before committing to a fabric specification. The 7-metre threshold is a practical guide, not a hard rule.
Plenty of commercial and working boats under 7 metres are retubed in 866 because the application warrants it. Equally, some leisure boats over 7 metres are retubed in 828 where the duty is light and the owner's preference is for the standard grade.
This is where owners often misread the specification. Choosing 866 over 828 does not protect the boat against wear in the way that proper reinforcement does.
The base fabric choice addresses structural strength and load-bearing performance. Wear protection is a separate question.
Whatever grade is used, we always recommend reinforcing areas that will see regular contact, abrasion or operational wear. That reinforcement strategy has more impact on long-term service life than the 828 vs 866 decision in most cases.
Moving from 828 to 866 is not a substitute for proper reinforcement. A well-reinforced 828 tube will outlast an unreinforced 866 tube on a boat that works hard. We always discuss both as part of the specification.
| Orca Hypalon 828 | Orca Hypalon 866 | |
|---|---|---|
| Fabric weight | Standard — 1340 g/m² | Heavyweight — 1565 g/m² |
| Typical boat size | Up to ~7m | 7m and above |
| Leisure use | Yes — standard choice | Yes — where specified |
| Commercial / patrol | Lighter-duty commercial | Yes — standard choice |
| Rescue / military | Some applications | Yes — preferred choice |
| UV resistance | Strong — CSM compound | Strong — CSM compound |
| Colour range | Full Orca range, all finishes | Full Orca range, all finishes |
| ISO / SOLAS cert | ISO 6185, SOLAS 15372 | ISO 6185, SOLAS 15372 |
Need help choosing a colour as well as a fabric grade? Both Orca 828 and Orca 866 are available across the main Orca Hypalon colour range. See our Orca Hypalon colour chart for available colours, finishes and practical advice for RIB tubes.
Send us the boat make, model, length and a few photos of the existing tubes. Ribcollar will advise on the right Orca Hypalon grade, finish, reinforcement strategy and fittings for the job.